Overcoming a Haunted House with D Paul

Episode 013: Overcoming a Haunted House with D Paul

What if the darkness you felt wasn’t just paranormal—but energy drawn to your light?

In this powerful and spine-tingling episode of Overcoming Anything, I sit down with D Paul, a Disabled U.S. Navy Veteran and Native American Holy Man, who has spent his life walking between two worlds: the physical and the spiritual.

D Paul shares his journey of confronting poltergeists, demons, and dark entities—forces so powerful they’ve put his own life in danger. From growing up in an abusive home overshadowed by dark energy, to learning how to face fear through faith and understanding, his story reveals what it truly means to battle darkness and stand in the light.

Rooted in both his Native American heritage and Christian faith, D Paul offers profound insights on energy, protection, and the importance of keeping your spirit strong. His message is not one of fear—but of empowerment, healing, and light.

D Paul’s life is a living testament to resilience, purpose, and divine service. As a Heyoka, healer, and seer, he’s investigated and cleansed countless haunted homes, helping people release negative attachments, restore peace, and reclaim their power. His mantra:
 💫 “Keep the faith. Keep moving forward.”

Key Takeaways

1.     Darkness feeds on fear. Fear amplifies dark energy, but faith and courage dissolve it.

2.     Energy never dies—it transforms. Negative emotions can linger in spaces until they’re cleared or transmuted through light.

3.     Everyone can reclaim their power. Protection begins with intention, prayer, and standing firm in your own light.

Timestamps
00:00 — Welcome & introduction
03:15 — D Paul’s journey from Navy veteran to Native American Holy Man
07:30 — Childhood encounters with darkness and the “woman on the stairs”
14:00 — Understanding the nature of dark energy vs. fear
20:10 — The difference between poltergeists, demons, and tricksters
26:45 — The turning point: realizing fear is fuel for darkness
33:20 — Overcoming trauma and understanding spiritual purpose
40:00 — How to protect yourself and your home from negative energies
48:15 — Spiritual armor: faith, intention, and daily protection rituals
55:30 — The healing power of light and divine connection
01:00:00 — D Paul’s books, mission, and message of hope

Connect with D. Paul
Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100088886720840
X: @DPaulFleming442

Books & Resources by D Paul
• Mysteries at the Windham Inn — Based on true supernatural events, https://a.co/d/7N1O4ME
• A Date with Suicide — A powerful exploration of veteran trauma and survival, https://a.co/d/f1SbNz4
• 2,442 Steps to Crazy — A raw memoir of overcoming abuse and darkness, https://a.co/d/0wgjuv2

Credits
Host: Anne Vryonides
Guest: D Paul

Disclaimer
The content of this episode is for informational and inspirational purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional advice, therapy, or medical treatment.

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Transcript

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Welcome to Overcoming Anything, the podcast where we dive deep into stories of resilience, transformation, and growth. I'm your host, Anne Vryonides, and today we have an incredible guest who has overcome haunted houses. Joining me today is DePaul. DePaul is a disabled veteran who served in the US Navy and is the seasoned Native American holy man his work has brought physical, spiritual, and emotional healing to so many people afflicted by dark attachments, negative energies, and even possession. So this is going to be a very exciting episode, so welcome to the show. Possession. Holy Lord, man. That sounds terrifying. Who is this maniac product show? It's gonna be exciting and timely too, right? Yes, yes. So before we dive in, I'd love to ask, what's one quote or mantra that's kept you going in tough times, especially when you feel like you've been under siege By dark forces. Yeah, that's a great question. That's a, especially for a lead-in, that's a great question. Thank you. I would have to say my mantra, which, I put in every one of my books, that's keep the faith, keep moving forward. Your current ventures. Okay. Awesome. So let's start at the beginning. So what is the most difficult thing that you've had to overcome with dark energies? With dark energies? Yes. Probably trying to understand what they are, like anything else in life when we don't understand something, when we don't know what it is, we tend to fear it. We fear the unknown as a general statement. You know, as a kid seeing dark energy, I mean, hell, seeing a ghost is, can be terrifying. Well, as an adult, it doesn't bother me anymore, but as a kid, you know, it can be quite terrifying. I know a couple of my sons of when they were young would see ghosts in their room and, they would come running, screaming. So probably figuring out, how to understand dark energy, evil, if you will, demons, right tricksters. Once you start figuring out their game and, you come to terms with it and you truly realize that, there isn't really any distinction between light and dark energy, short of good and bad. It's still just energy. Some have strong power, some don't. A Poltergeist for the most part is just a tumbleweed of negative energy. And they're easy. At least they're easy for me to get rid of. Demons are a little more tricky and, tricksters can be quite a pain to deal with. So once I overcame my fear of lack of understanding what darkness presents or what it is, what it's made of, then the kind of fear went away. It took me a long time to figure out the difference, what dark energy really was. Okay. I have a question for you. So why do the dark energies, gravitate to you more? Because you have more spiritual powers. You have more spiritual strength. The brighter you shine, the more like mos to a flame. In general, dark energies will do everything it can to snuff out white light. So all of us living, start out with white light. There's a couple of exceptions, but, that's a long conversation. So a dark energy wants to do what its job is and its job is to be negative, right. To be bad, to be evil and like a moth to a flame. It will do what it can to spread its wings and, dull. End your light. So what did you experience up and to the point where you realized, okay, this is dark energy. I need to figure this out and learn how to protect myself. That thought was with me for time and memorial, even as a little kid. I mean, I was raised in a brutal, brutal environment. I wrote a book on it recently, or I should say a few years ago. But that, I'm trying to understand darkness and anger and evil. It's been with me for forever, so it's truly been a lifelong experience trying to figure this stuff out. And again, once you figure it out, it's something, but the crazy stepfather that I had, and his abuse, I could see the darkness in him. I could see the darkness around him. One of the things that was terrifying as a child was this entity of this woman who would appear on the stairs of this house that we lived in. She had blood all over her and you could see the stab wounds in her. She would always point at this crazy bastard that was raising me. And, I knew then that she was saying to me that she's dead because of him. You know, so, those things are terrifying all by themselves, right? So why is darkness trying to snuff out your light? For me, it's kind of a two-way street. When I go to places I can actually watch darkness flee from my light. I'd love to tell you it's my power, but it's not. I'm merely a conduit and my light shines as brightly as it does. Because of the angels and the end, the white light beings that are around me. So if I went to a mall buck naked, and I don't mean unclothed, I mean, without all the spiritual protection that's around me and I'd be the same as every other, Joe and Jane out there. I'd be subject to the attacks like the everyday person. Especially if they don't put up protection. I'm blessed with a lot of angels, a lot of white light beings around me, that help, you know, that bring me to bear for everything from healing to removing darkness. That's amazing. You're definitely a chosen one. I pay a lot of attention to that word or those two words chosen. One. I listen to a lot of great folks like you who talk about the chosen ones. I'm very tentative. To acknowledge that, I never wanna stroke my ego again. I put that thing away a long time ago because it has zero value in life. You know, I've had a lot of people say that about me or just say that in front of me, it's a great compliment if you're directing it at me. But, you know, one that I'm very, very cautious. Very, very respectful of, imagine that thought just all by itself, a chosen one, right? Just those words elevate you to a status that is either terrifying or exciting. Right? So how do you find the balance to take on that kind of responsibility?'cause that's the responsibility I've felt my whole life, i'm here to be a messenger. I'm here to help on behalf of Great Spirit and his white light warriors. I mean, just that statement alone, right. You better lock your ego up or you're gonna be, you know, dancing down the highway thinking you're invincible right up until a car splats you across the pool. I definitely feel you're a chosen one. That is definitely a compliment because, my personal opinion is I believe that when you come into life, this lifetime, a lot of times we choose to have stronger lessons. We choose those harder lessons and so we are initiated when we come in and in our childhood. People chosen ones go through the most traumatic things that you can't. Even imagine, but yet they find their way through. So by the time they fully get to the light, then the darkness comes. But you also have the wisdom. Yes. You're holding up your book. The wisdom to fight them off. Yes. I learned when you said as a child, okay. I hated my childhood with a passion. It was the most abusive thing that any human being. Good experience. And the truth of the matter is I had no interest in telling my story. But Great Spirit has a different, you know, position on what I should and shouldn't do in this lifetime, you know, and they pushed me to write these books, but when I wrote the book about the first 14 years of my life, that's book one, book two's coming out soon. I had been with my wife, as I like to say, for 50 years. You know, I handed her the finished copy of the book. I had never said a word to her about my childhood. Not a word. I cautioned her many times about getting around crazy before he died and ended up being a dark spirit on the wrong side of the veil. And my mother, you know, but I never said the why. When she read the book, she cried. She didn't talk to me for days. And then when she finally was able to talk to me without crying, she said, you weren't abused. You were tortured. Oh, when she said that, I feel that, right? Mm-hmm. When she said that, it was like a revelation to me, you know, because when you're abused, you tend to blame yourself, right? All the blame is cast on you. This, I'm beating you to make you better. All this crap. Well, it's hard to get that stigma out of you. So when she said that you were tortured. Listen, I'm a Navy guy, right? I've been through a few things, you know, I'm looking at this and I'm saying, wow, man, that's, that's wild and holy crap. I think she's right. The level of abuse I went through was so far past abuse and trauma. It was pure torture. And the things that were done to me are just vile. And honestly, I had to downgrade. A lot of the stuff in that book because it just wouldn't be believable what truly happened, you know? Now on the positive side, ever since I published that book, I haven't had so many hugs in my life. You'd be amazed how women will come up to me and go, can I give you a hug? What? What am I gonna say? No, you're like, bring it on. I got a great wife. Right? I look at my wife and I go, wants, gimme a hug. I'm, let's go. Make me feel better from all the boos I had when I was a kid. I'm sorry that you had to endure the torture, I guess as you say it, of your childhood. But how did you overcome that mindset? Because, like you said, you, you believe it's your fault, or you have that shame, you have that embarrassment. So how did you overcome that? Yeah, so shame, embarrassment, all, all of those words have different answers to'em. So lemme try to generalize it. How did I overcome it? First and foremost. To this second, I can remember being beaten and with every strike, with every blow, with every time I was thrown across the room or smashed into a wall, this fight inside of me just kept building. These words of, you can't beat me. You may be able to kill me, but you will never beat me. And the more that mentality built, the more beatings I would take, the more abuse I would suffer, the more insanity I would have to go through until eventually this living craziness finally surrender. Okay. But he finally surrendered, and I don't want to give away the end of the book, but he finally surrendered when the spirit world was whispering rather loud, me in my ear enough, okay? Now, the reason it was enough was because that one of two things was gonna happen. Either I was gonna be dead or crazy, was gonna be dead. That's how, that's the cliffhanger to book one of 2,442 steps to crazy. How did I survive? Sheer willpower, determination, belief in something greater than myself, and the ability to somehow hear that inner voice when it was needed most. Now, I don't wanna go too far without saying I spent a fair part of my younger life saying this, what the blankety blank, blank, blank. God, why the blankety blank, blank God, you know? And doing the I hate God and my life sucks and all that crap. I didn't really say, my life sucks. That's not fair. I'm like, why me? Why me? Now when we get to this stage and we look back and we say, okay, so you have a life contract. You're doing these things, right? I'm like, all right. I survived all this crap. You know why? Spirit, why did you put me through all this crap to advance my soul? Okay, that's great. And they said, well, yeah, in part. And I'm like, oh. Here comes the dot, dot dot from Great Spirit. God, after that, you know in part, right? You need to tell your story. Now, when I'm listening to this from the spirit world, I'm like, F you not doing it. I lived it. I'm not repeating it. It's not happening. I've fought that for years, okay? And the spirit world's as patient as time is in the spirit world. Now, if you know anything about the spirit world, it's not such thing as time, right? There's no time in the spirit world, right? So they're patient, but they kept showing me the feather and everybody that knows anything in the spirit world would say to me, there's a feather hanging over you. It was my symbol that I'm supposed to be writing. So they kept pushing me to, to write, and I finally sat down and said, who the hell wants to read my my life? Man, it's gross. And to my great astonishment, when the book was released, I don't think there was a dry eye or a negative comment ever. The impact that it had on people. Was stunning for me. I never realized just how much abuse people go through, right? Especially women, so the amount of living people that came to me and said, thank you, or can I give you a hug? It was oddly rewarding. Can I say that? Does a POW say it was reward? It's tough to get a handle on, so I have to say, you know what, I don't quite understand this, and if I try to, I'll probably lose my mind. I'm just gonna trust the spirit world that this is meant to be. And that's kind of where I left it. And that loosened my ability to tell more. And then what did I do? I went out and said, all right, I'm tired of 50 veterans a day committing suicide. So I wrote a book called A Date with Suicide. And it literally walks people through why 50 veterans a day are committing suicide, and how close to that cliff I was. Of course when you get to the other books, you know, a lot more enjoyable reading, so. Thank you God, for not letting you go over that cliff, but so many people get to that edge. So how were you able to pull yourself off and say, I have a purpose here. It was almost like everything you went through in your childhood was like the initiation to your greatness. And so like you said, and you know, you never say thank you for that, but you're like, I wouldn't be the person I am today. Had that not happened. So when people ask me if I would change anything in my life, I say no. Because if I did, then I wouldn't be in this spot exactly where I am right now, right? And I'm here to help people. So how in my ear I could always hear you are here to do something, and in the back of my mind, I always had this sense that if you don't get it done in this lifetime, you're gonna have to come back and do it again. And just that thought alone terrified me enough where I'm like, man, even if there's a half a billion of a percent chance that that's true, I don't want to take that risk. I don't want to come back. I'm not doing a redo. Okay. Mulligans are meant for the golf course, not your, your, I like that phrase when you used it. So there was just something in me and enough spirits, white light beings around me that kept me. Wow. So I'm being shown something right now, and it's reminding me that, at one point in my life, maybe decade and a half ago, maybe, mm-hmm. I kind of said enough after this, and as soon as I did my, my primary, my gatekeeper, my lifelong spirit guide moved away from me. Okay. And I wanna be careful I say this because I don't ever want it to happen again. And as this power drew distant in came this snake-like, nasty piece of evil that I can see as plain as I can see you. And it just started curling around my energy field. Oh my gosh. And that feeling of pure evil. Any doubt that I had left of white light, dark energy, God, evil. Okay? Mm-hmm. Take the, the moment you, a mother gives birth and that mother love is there, right? Mm-hmm. How do you, how do you explain that? You can't, well take it, multiply it by 10 or a hundred, flip it into the negative. That's what that dark energy felt like. Okay. But it, it, it scared me back into the white light, but it still doesn't scare me, right? You know, because as long as you protect your soul, then you're just flesh and bone and what are they gonna do? You know? So my, my soul belongs to the light, God's Christ, great spirit, so on, right? So those two things kind of unfolded at the same time, which, i'm pretty certain was an intentional lesson that I needed to see to understand my position in this battle and the opportunity to explain and help people through trauma and tough times. So that's quite a cliffhanger. So how did you get that sneak to move away? So, in book 37 of my new series, now I'm kidding. Stay tuned for a lifetime. No, I'm just kidding. No, I all but dropped to my knees and begged God to bring his troops back. I said Got it. Get it. Understand it. I am pop. Nope. Bring it, but come back. Okay. And it's almost like my gatekeeper, my guardian angel, you know, was like a, like an old ninny. Putting his hands on his hips, saying, Hmm. Did you learn your lesson yet? I ain't coming in until You're sure you know, stupid humans, right? Oh boy. I begged, for mercy and to clear me, cleanse me. Get this thing the hell outta here. Of course. Great spirit did. God brought back the light. And again, it didn't take it away, it just kind of, it literally just moved just far enough to let that darkness in. So when people don't think that, you know, standing in the light of Christ or wrapping yourself in bubbles of protection for those who think that doesn't work. Listen man, keep testing that theory. Go ahead. I dare you. Keep testing that theory. Crack your bubble open and be a, you know, smart ass and say, oh, okay. Come on in. Watch what happens. I guarantee you, you and the baby Jesus will be like me and the baby Jesus. You will be one very quickly. Yeah, I definitely don't crack my bubble and it's sealed and always closed. So if one of our listeners is going through, let's say a dark period in their life, or they think that someone in their life maybe has an entity or they've been the effect of dark energy, how would you suggest that they begin to protect themselves? The first thing is to get out of that environment. So if it's a house or it's a location, a job, you need to get away from that in all of its form and find something that you can consider your own sanctuary, whether it's the woods, the water, a church, some religious. Environment someplace where white light breeds and exceeds, okay? What I mean by breeze is, I mean, other people are around that white light. So again, the more white light beings are around live and dead, obviously, the harder it is for darkness to interfere. So the first thing you wanna do is get outta that, environment so you can be away from the undue. Because at times it's difficult still for me to understand the difference in what's, a white light message and something sneaking through. For people that don't have a lot of protection, a lot of understanding, those messages are just like wires going crazy in their mind. Which is real, which is Right. What am I doing? Why am I having these thoughts? Why am I feeling these emotions? Right. Get outta that environment and then as I tell everybody, when they say to me, it says, what's your first line of defense? My first line of defense is very simple. I stand in a light of Christ, period. Full stop. I envision this beam of white light just soaking me, protecting me, surrounding me. And from there I call in. You know, I have angels around me. I have a lot of different guides, and I ask for their help and their protection, and at times I ask for them to wrap their light around me. Lastly. We all have power animals, okay? Most people that follow Christianity and so on, kind of this is where they'll get lost, but, so just stay with me, okay? Dogs, cats, birds, wolves, whatever. All of us have some type of spirit animal with us from start to finish, from the time your, soul is placed into the baby's body until the day you drop dead, 72 hours later, blah, blah, blah. Through the course of your life, you'll have different guides and different animal spirit guides coming in and out of your life to help you help teach you, lessons or help you through things. For me, I've got some powerful, spirit animals around me, and I will literally ask them to come in and wrap their energy, their light around me. You do this enough and you can protect yourself against everything including the devil, with the only exception being of course, God. Okay, so when you wake up first thing in the morning, is that what you do? You protect yourself with those layers of God or angels and your power animals? Well, the first thing I do is I wake up and say, oh, let's see how it's gonna take to get this fat old baldheaded. Body. Oh, stop baby. Gimme a push. Whatcha a push? I roll out, hit the floor, listen to the bones crack, realize how fast my bladder is deteriorating, and beeline it for you know where, right? You're so funny. So typically in the morning I do sage sweetgrass and just renew. Renew my position by clearing any and all negative, dark or gray energies or entities from within or around, or near me, above, below, blah, blah, blah. Okay, so I'll, I'll clear, clear and cleanse myself and then set the intention for the day, right? Okay. You know, today's gonna be a great day. I wanna work on this. I wanna get 1500 pages done. I want our, our words done, blah, blah, blah. Okay. I'll also send out healing. Right now my wife is battling stage four cancer, and every morning I surround her in light and, and. You know, talk to Archangel Raphael and the healers and so on and so on, and flood her with as much white light as. Possible. So that's kind of what I do to start the day. Now do I do that every single day religiously? No. I mean, I'd love to tell you I'm the greatest shaman, holy man, walking the face of this earth. But, you know, I'm still just a man, and sometimes I do it with more vigor in the morning and sometimes I light a candle and go, I'm fine. And I'm not going anywhere today anyway. So, you know, and if I do that too often, I can feel the darkness pushing back in. At times I'll sigh and say, all right, gotta put up this protection. Anybody that thinks that being a white light warrior, or to use your words, anybody that's a chosen one, if anybody that thinks it's easy, it's not. It is a ton of work and I mean a ton of work. If someone was experiencing, let's say, a ghost in their house, how would you suggest that they respond to that? Do they just open the door and tell it to go what steps would you suggest? Take control, right? It's your house. Many spirits or ghosts in people's houses tend to be there for a reason. They used to live there, they knew somebody there. They want to be there for a reason, okay? Because it makes'em feel good, or they're just lost, right? So, you know, when I clear a house, a property, a person, I make it crystal clear that they can do exactly what I can do. Everybody has access to the same spirit world. Now some of us, are conduits with a few more connections, okay? Mm-hmm. Right? You know, I've got some powerful folks out there that watch over me and. I allow them to be a conduit to do what they need to do, right? The most important thing I try to get people to understand is that you take control of your life and your existence. I'll help you, but you have to be an active participant because once I leave, you have to maintain the protections that I put up, and you have to do the work that. Prevents the darkness or ghost from getting back in. Now, is it always that dramatic? No. Sometimes it's just ghosts that, they're lost or whatever, and you send them on their way and they're fine. It could be as easy as sage or sweetgrass. One of my kids, maybe 10 years ago. Was having some issues and I could sense it, see, feel it, but, the tough part is not being proactive by removing it. When I knew that my child needed to. Okay, so I helped set the stage, okay? And then I went and I did the stage Sweetgrass eat tobacco, and then said, okay, I've done it. Now you need to do it tomorrow. And then I stayed with them and helped them do that, and, showed them that they have the power to bring in white light and remove stuff. But like everything else in life, it takes work, it takes practice, and trial and error is a key. Once you figure those things out and you can protect yourself against the darkest of evils and, remove ghosts from your own house, especially Polter guys, they're fun to remove because they're kind of stupid. So how would someone know if they have a Poltergeist versus like a dark spirit? So most Poltergeist kind of feel like a negative, bland, something, you just don't feel right. You know, it's kind of like you can't pin it down, right? But there's no real emotion to it. It just feels like sadness or anger or hatred. And you can kind of feel it just a little bit apart from you, and you're questioning yourself, is it me? No. It's kind of something else. And then something will get whipped across the room, right? For me, more times than not, when things start getting tossed, those are typically polter guys, right? A demon or a trickster, they don't really, at least in my experiences, they don't spend a lot of time tossing. I'm not saying they don't, okay, but at least in my experiences, they have other minions that kind of do the throwing crap around. Their job is to really scare the hell outta you and latch onto you, right? But a Poltergeist, to me is nothing more than a tumbleweed of anger, hatred, and darkness. Where does it come from? Take a brand new house built for a couple with three kids, once they move in, all the warm and fuzzies stay there for a day or so until you can't find this. And all of a sudden something's not right and you have a fight. So the first time in that house, you have that fight between a husband and a wife or siblings arguing, and it gets heated and negative energy is created, but where the hell does that negative energy go? Splat. It goes right on the floor, wherever that conversation was. Now do that every day or every week or whatever the family cycle is for arguing, and I mean arguing where it's negative, right. I hate you blah, blah, blah. After enough of those, that energy just keeps stacking up inside your home. Let's say it goes on for a year, two years, five years, whatever the number is. Eventually all that dark energy, kinda like science proved energy doesn't. End. It just morphs. It shifts. So you spew out energy that was based on love because you love your partner, and yet you're screaming at each other, or fighting with each other, and all that energy builds up and then it just sits there. And these puddles of ooze and slime. And if you ever really see these things, they're pretty disgusting. Now take that, multiply it just like a tumbleweed. How does a tumbleweed become a three foot wide tumbleweed? It started with one stick, got blown across the prairie, gathered another, another, another, and eventually that tumbleweed has enough energy to develop its own conscience. Now again, is it a conscience like you and I? Well, I would say yes. Not as effective as you and I, but similar to you and I, because it's bred from you and I. So its sense is anger. So what's it gonna do? It's gonna lash out once it gets enough energy. It's like a firecracker with the FU lit, just waiting for it to get to that TNT. Okay? Boom. When it pops, it pops by throwing things. Now again, does it pick it up and go, woo. Nope. You gotta think about it like a firecracker. In my house, there was this Polter. Geac got in. Out of the blue, I'm lying in bed and I hear this crash and I yell, baby, what the hell was that? And she goes, the, iron pot, the thing that you put pots on, you know, hot pots was up above the microwave and it got thrown about six feet across the kitchen. Okay. So I can hear my wife, she goes, they're gonna take care of this. Right? And I said, I'll get it in the morning. It just didn't feel like getting up, but I knew what it was 10 years earlier, it would've fricking terrified me. So what is it, going back maybe 20 years, I guess, anyway, next day I call in the troops, collect it. The lesson behind that for me was, how the hell did I miss that? I have been clearing this house for forever. So my simple theory of, you know, poltergeist are just a collection of our anger. Okay. Is true. But Poltergeist can also attach and slip in from. From other directions. You know, like people, like you said, do you open the door and chase things out? You know, in its simplest sense and you're trying to protect yourself. Yes. You wanna do that? Is that the best way to get rid of it? No. Because all you're doing is passing it on to someone else The best way to get rid of those things is to bring in white light, wrap it up, and have it taking away. Properly disposed of, if you will. So any advice for someone maybe going to like a bar? Let's say they wanna go out with friends or they go to a concert where there's like, you know, drinking and are technically considered like lower vibrational situations. Other than your own protection, is there any other things that you would recommend to stay safe? The older you get, when you drink, spirits, the word spirits came from when they drank a thousand years ago, 2000 years ago, whatever it was, you lower your inhibitions. Well, you don't just lower your personal inhibitions, you lower your protection. Mm-hmm. And you open access for darkness to come in. That took me far too long to figure out, and I mean, far too long, right? Mm-hmm. So if you're going into, let's say a low vibrational environment like a bar or a concert, and you wanna have a good time with friends, but you also wanna protect yourself and not take any polter ice home. So, there's two things about a bar. There's a lot of excitement there, which can actually neutralize all that negative energy. But the underlying current is that low vibration. So all the fun is happening up here, right? In a bar. But down around your knees and your ankles is this sludge, this crude oil of bitterness, anger, hatred, and envy. You name the sins and it's packed in there. You're walking through that. So lemme give you an example of what happens when your inhibitions are lowered a little bit you have such gifts that God's spirits will his, his angels will talk through you. Watch this. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 years ago, maybe. My wife and I are at, Joey's hometown bar, right? Mm-hmm. I think it was Iron Horse. I think that was the name of it. And it's a Friday night and my wife and I have six kids, so, I think it was shortly after the sixth one was born, you know, it was probably about 30 now, so that sounds about right. Mm-hmm. Anyway, we're out doing what people who are, you know, snapping the whip of the last days of their youth. Right? And as we're in this kind of packed hometown bar, we usually know everybody. There was this one girl who kind of squished in between me and, passed my wife and she bumped up against my arm and when she did, she touched me and kind of like an electrical zap. Without thought. I looked at her and I said, oh, you have cancer, right? Whoa, okay. That was what her face looked like. Now of course I'm saying to myself, what the fuck? And as I'm looking at her now, her mind is moving fast. Well, right next to her was this 11 foot 15 inch boyfriend of hers, who looked like two middle linebackers glued together and squished to make it up to close to 12 feet tall. And the look on his face was less than charming. Okay? All he realized was, I said something to her that put a look on her face that he'd never seen. So he instantly goes into. I'm gonna beat your ass mode. Right. This woman looks at me, puts her hand on this guy and says, how did you know I've never told anybody? And in fact, I just found out this morning, wow, I got goosebumps. Whoa. One of the reasons I don't like being touched, although hugs are acceptable, is because of the things that I can see, sense and know when I get close to people and if I don't isolate myself in a hug or a handshake, you know? So, back to the bar question, right? There's two sides to the coin, okay? You got the low vibration sludge down on the bottom and the high, the, you know, the, the fun up, up above. So how do you protect yourself if you're going walking into like a low vibrational environment, pretend that you're a giant egg, okay? And that you wanna surround yourself in the light of Christ or the light of Buddha, or whatever it is you believe in that is not darkness, In that. Okay. And again, like I had talked about using your guides to protect you, one of the things, kind of a standing order for my gatekeeper, it's very simple. It's like, listen, if I don't pick something up and it starts charging, okay, step in between will you push it back. And every now and again, I have to say to him, you know, I'm, I'm way, I'm overloaded, pushed back on all this energy. Coming at me, but the basic rule is to wrap yourself in light and love and whatever it is you can. Now, I'm a huge sage guy. I'm a huge Crystals guy. And when people say to me that, ah, crystals rocks, oh my God, there's a Magic Stones. And I look at'em and I say, you're damn right they're magic stones. And I could tell you stories about my magic Stones, but I'll wrap myself in different, the different power. Powers associated with specific crystals. IE black, terminally selenite, angel Light. Right, right. Okay. And I'll wrap myself in that energy to protect myself. And then always knowing that all of that protection has a shelf life. It has so much battery life in it. Mm-hmm. And the longer you're in that. Dark, low vibration environment, the sooner that charge will decrease and you'll start feeling that energy. So, reset, recharge, or get out of there. Okay. All right. Any, last imparting wisdom you wanna share with our listeners? I love this. Oh my gosh, I have learned so much. We will definitely have you back. So any other, thoughts you wanna share on? Yeah. You really wanna learn a lot and have fun with it. My latest book series is Mysteries at the Wind of Min. This book is based on a young woman who was hanged not once, but twice. This was about 40 years after the Salem witch trials were cavage. You could no longer burn witches at the stake. This entire series is based on a true story and when you read it, you will learn a lot of the secrets that I'm telling on your show, because everything I write is chopped full of the spirit world. Okay? If you don't have any interest in the spirit world, but you like ghosts, this book is gonna knock your socks off, okay. Everything I write is brush stroked with the spirit world. People that have a sentiment like you, you'll pick up on it. Everywhere I go, you'll see references that people will be like, some people say to me, I had to Google that or I had to, use the ency, not the encyclopedia. A dictionary we used to have, right? To understand what this means and why you do things in fours and why blah, blah, blah, like I tell people in the Mysteries of the Wind, there's some real dark energies entities and I mean dark entities at this building, and it's a real building. Okay? It's not very far from my house, right? But I tell them, and I write it in the book, just because something gets on you, there are plenty of ways to, cleanse yourself without having to go see a shaman, a holy man, somebody in the system, right? In this business. In that book, it tells you how to do the circles, how to move your feet, how to clear yourself. Because I'm just using one of the characters who got an attachment honor. To learn this lesson. She does the proper techniques, cleanses herself and pop the darkness came off her. So it's not just a story of, the spirit world and ghosts and angels and so on, you know? Awesome. Great. Well, this has been such an incredible conversation. I've loved it. It's been so much fun and very enlightening. So I'm sure our guests will have, some new insights. If you found this episode helpful, please share it with someone who might be facing this same situation of, dark energy and needs to hear this message of hope. Don't forget to subscribe and I'll see you next time on overcoming Anything.