Overcoming the Unexplainable: Close Encounters and Consciousness with Jerome Martin

Episode 029 — Overcoming the Unexplainable: Close Encounters and Consciousness with Jerome Martin

When something extraordinary happens—and no one believes you—it can feel isolating, terrifying, and impossible to talk about. In this mind-expanding episode of Overcoming Anything, host Anne Vryonides sits down with Jerome Martin to explore what it’s like to experience close encounters, live with ridicule and disbelief, and eventually transform fear into purpose through consciousness work and energetic mastery.

Jerome Martin is a metaphysical practitioner in Advanced Galactic Healing Technologies who facilitates close encounters, multidimensional contact experiences, and DNA/light-body activations. He shares his earliest experiences (including missing time), how he moved from skepticism to validation, and the work he now does helping others access expanded states of consciousness, healing, and intuitive development.

Key Takeaways
• The hardest part isn’t the experience—it’s the isolation, ridicule, and self-doubt when no one can relate
• What begins as fear can become empowerment when you learn discernment, energetic control, and grounded integration
• Unprocessed emotions can manifest as physical issues—healing work often starts with shadow work before “higher” contact

Timestamps
• 00:00 — Introduction: overcoming the unexplainable and the fear of being judged
• 02:10 — Jerome’s core belief: you are more than your body (and humans are more psychic than we realize)
• 05:00 — The real challenge: disbelief, ridicule, and feeling like you’re “going crazy”
• 08:30 — Validation moment: brainwave changes during contact (Discovery Channel experience)
• 11:30 — First encounter story (2015): red light, missing time, and later recovered memories
• 18:00 — Sedona as a hotspot: night-vision tour, calling craft in real time, telepathic response
• 24:30 — DNA + consciousness: dormant capacities and what Jerome calls “activation” work
• 31:00 — How the “lightship” experiences began: training, control, and learning to operate consciousness
• 38:00 — From construction worker to facilitator: helping others access contact experiences
• 44:00 — Shadow work as the “TSA checkpoint”: why trauma/lower emotional states can block higher access
• 49:00 — Healing chambers: examples of physical and emotional healing experiences
• 58:00 — Recommended book: Voyagers (Series) and why it helped Jerome contextualize the bigger picture
• 01:01:30 — Where to connect with Jerome + what’s coming next (membership/community + trainings)

Connect with Jerome Martin
• Jerome’s website: jeromemartinthree.com | Instagram | Facebook

Resources
• Voyagers (Series I & II) by “Ian Dean” —it’s hard to find in print, sometimes available via resale marketplaces or as an audiobook/reading online

If this episode expanded your perspective, share it with a friend who loves exploring consciousness, a skeptic who’s open-minded, or anyone who’s had an experience they can’t explain and needs to feel less alone. I’ll see you next time on Overcoming Anything.
❤️ Anne

Disclaimer
The content of this episode is for informational and inspirational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy, diagnosis, legal, or medical care.

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Transcript

Anne: 0:00

Welcome to Overcoming Anything, the podcast where we dive deep into stories of resilience, transformation, and growth. I'm your host, Anne Vryonides, and today we have an incredible guest who is gonna talk about overcoming close encounters. With Extraterrestrials. So joining me today is Jerome Martin. He is the third, is the metaphysical practitioner in Advanced Galactic Healing Technologies. Super cool with, DNA activations. He facilitates close encounters with the galactic team, interdimensional and trans dimensional beings. So he's guided a lot of people on their journey to unity, wisdom, and cosmic. Consciousness. I love that. Who has an amazing story that he's going to share with us. So welcome to the show. Thank you for having me, Ann.

Jerome: 0:44

Absolutely. So before we dive in, I always love to ask, what's one quote or mantra that keeps you going in tough times?

Anne: 0:51

A quote or a mantra? That's a really good question. You put me on the spot. I'm trying to think of something that is something that I, I think or believe in, but really, we are a lot more than we think we are, right? We are more than this body. We are this vast, multidimensional being, and we have higher capacities than we even know. Most people think that, this whole psychic phenomena or these different things that, that. Not everybody has that, but as humans we are very psychic. And when people tune into their consciousness, magical things happen. Ooh,

Jerome: 1:19

I love it. You need to tell us more. So we're gonna deep dive into that. So let's start at the beginning. What is the most challenging aspect of being, encountering extraterrestrials, and how did that change your life? The most challenging part about it was when it first started happening. I've had a sort of string of experiences that led into this, like mass awakening, but when it first happened, it was the disbelief that what was happening was real. And so, I had experiences that, other people around me weren't having. And so when I was talking about them, because people can't relate. They think you're making it up or they think it's not real. And for a long time, I myself thought maybe I was going crazy or I was losing my mind, or I was hallucinating. And people would say, I would tell these stories and they'd be what drugs were you taking to have that experience? And a lot of like the ridicule. Feeling like you can't open up to people about these experiences. That was the most challenging thing for me because I got made fun of, or, my partner thought I was crazy at the time and all this different stuff. So I felt like I couldn't, open up to people about it. So was there a specific moment when everything just felt completely impossible? And how did you get through that?

Anne: 2:24

Yes. So part of it was, it felt like almost traumatizing because. So some of the experiences were traumatizing because they weren't, I wasn't in control of them and it felt like it was happening to me, and there was fear. And so that was sort of scary. And then, when it went into it, it shifted into being in control and that's when it became less scary. But it just seemed impossible to be able to share this stuff with the world because, I had this important thing that was happening and. It seemed impossible when it was still only inside of me and nobody else could share the experience, right? So it seemed like it was just in my mind or in my consciousness, or in these altered states, and I couldn't share with the world, and that made it feel like it was impossible because it just seemed like people didn't believe me. And then it shifted into possible when I then gained the ability to facilitate and bring others on these journeys where I can facilitate direct. Contact experiences with others. That is when it shifted and when I went on certain shows, like I was on the Discovery Channel show called, UFO Witness and on that show, they hooked my brain up to computers, ex FBI, Homeland Security hooked me up and he is like, wow. Yeah. He's hooked me up to these, this brainwave mining technology and he is was a ex interrogator. So he is I see through the bs. So I think you're making it up and I'm gonna prove that you are through these technologies. I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions to where your brain has to think of the answers, and I'm not, I'm gonna measure your brainwaves, right? So I'm gonna get a baseline of how we can, this is what your brain does when you think. Then we're gonna connect with your ETS up on this ship. And then I'm gonna ask, I'm gonna ask you questions to ask them and then. We'll see what your brain does. If it does the same as when you're thinking of answers, you're making it up my friend, And so I was able to prove live on TV that something is, something extraordinary is happening because the brainwaves completely change. And we go into almost like a dream state while you're awake. It's the brainwaves shift from, beta into alpha, into theta and then into gamma when these experiences are happening. And so he was, confused at first. Okay, I don't, I can't explain this. So something's happening here.

Jerome: 4:12

Wow, what validation. I bet you went in to tell all those people in your life like I told you so like I'm really not crazy. So take us back to the first time that you encountered an ET. Okay, so the first experience that I had was I was driving to Sedona, this was several years ago. It was back in 2015. I was driving to Sedona across the country from Chicago, and I was making it into New Mexico, and I was driving, it was nighttime, but it had only been night for a couple hours. It was probably approximately like 11:00 PM when this happened because I had only been driving for a few hours. This was in the summertime and it still gets dark later. And while I was driving. Through New Mexico, I was driving and the person I was with was sleeping in the passenger seat. I, as I was driving, I saw a red, like a red light, shoot over the top of the car. And at the time I thought it was a shooting star, right? I had a i, I had a sunroof and then in the windshield. So I saw this red light shoot over the car, and then as it shot over. I was like staring at it, like my eyes locked on it, and then it shot acro towards the horizon and then it made a right hand turn and then it shot again. And when it shot again after I made that right hand turn and my eyes were locked on it, it was like I was pulled into this like tunnel where the light, I just, all I could focus on was this light. And I remember when it happened. I remember. That's weird. And then I heard myself, it was like an echo where I heard that's weird. And it just kept echoing as I'm looking at this light. And then the light was just gone. And when it was gone, I was then driving still. But now the sun is coming up and the mountains, which were on one side are now on the other side. And the route that I was driving on, I'm now on another road. And IC and the person was still sleeping next to me, and so I couldn't explain the hours that I had missed. It was like 11 and then the sun's coming up, so there was a good chunk of time that was missing and at the time, because it seemed like it happened very fast. I just wrote it off as I am, I must be tired. Or, something like, I, I didn't, I was in disbelief of some strange experience and with the time missing and it gone, I'm like, I just, I didn't know what to think about it, so I didn't share it for a little while. And then it was later when I was on my spiritual path farther, I had a regression therapy. It was like a, it was like a regression hypnosis therapy where I regained those memories. They were suppressed. I was taken on a ship by, by Gray, we could call'em the grays, but there's ze. Extraterrestrials and on that ship they took, my, sperm. They took, genetic material and then they also were doing energetic things to my light body. And it was to, follow me. So they were implanting like little tracking devices. They weren't physical, but they were energetic in my light body'cause they wanted to watch me. And so for the longest time, up until, almost a year ago, I thought this was like this. Traumatic experience. And they wiped my memory that way. I didn't remember what happened and when this hap'cause they had the ability to like manipulate time. And so it just seemed like this quick light that I saw and I wasn't present for it, but they had removed those memories so I wouldn't, be conscious of them. And when I got these memories back, it was like, I was afraid. I was like, oh my God, these, I'm being abducted and these beings that, they're tampering with me. And it wasn't until. LA much later, almost like a year ago that my extraterrestrial guides that I work with now told me that I actually signed up for that. My soul signed up for that, before I came here and to be part of this, and this is when this happened, and it was actually a catalyst for the rest of my growth, right? These experiences happening were actually what woke me up to this whole phenomenon. So that was the first experience. Okay. And so then. Much, many years later, they all happened around Sedona, Arizona. It's like a hotspot for ets. The next time that this happened was I was in Sedona and I had a friend that I visited out there and I knew he had already moved away, but when I was there, I was at this place I like to go to and. Out of nowhere, something just told me like, you need to call, you need to call this person. And so I call him and I'm like, Hey, I know you already moved away, but something inside me told me to call you. And he is actually, I moved back two days ago and if you wanna see real extraterrestrials come to this address in 25 minutes, or it was like 40 minutes. And I got there in 25 and I'm like, I couldn't get there fast enough to have whatever experience this is. Mind you, I am very, analytical and I'm very like, you gotta prove it to me. I need proof, all this different stuff. And I get there and I'm like, how long am I gonna be at this place? Looking up at the sky to, before I see something that I tell myself is a UFO or a spacecraft or whatever, just because I wanna have the experience. Right? Right. And so that's something I'm batting around what's this gonna be like, because like I said, prove it to me. And, and most humans can't prove this type of stuff. And we're there. And this guy's house that we went to who was friends with my buddy. This guy is a professional UFO tour guide. So this is what he does for a living in Sedona. There's no light pollution. And they know how to find these things. And so this guy pulls out a bunch of cases of night vision goggles, right? Like they're like military grade night vision goggles. And he's got these green lasers and he gives us, we all have our own night vision goggles. And he explains to us like things that are flashing are like up, that's a plane. If it's flashing, you can't see satellites. This, that, and he tells us what isn't. What isn't a UFO first, and then we're gonna, when I see one, I'm gonna point not at it, but near it with the laser so you guys can see it, et cetera. And we'll go from there. I'm like, okay, like once again, how long am I gonna be out looking at the sky before I see something that I think is a spaceship? And so then within one minute, like literally he tells us within one minute, he's oh, there's one. And this is obviously way up in space. It's not like where you see a plane, there's a little dot of light way up in space. You see this thing coming across the sky. And then it's like moving a little bit, like it's moving in like just like non, it remind me of that like snake game where it's like moving like just weird patterns, Uhhuh. And he's like, okay. This is a UFO, which is an unidentified object. But let me tell you why I think it's, why I think it's extraterrestrials. And I'm like. Let's hear it. And he goes, just like I'm speaking to you. He says out loud, looking up at this thing, he goes, can you power up or dim your lights for our friends here? And the thing gets real bright and then it gets dark, and then it gets bright and then it gets dark. I'm like, wow.

Anne: 9:29

Like no way is this the guy talking this thing up in space and it's flashing. And this is before, Dr. Steven Greer came out with the CE five, where this is something similar where you can call in chips, et cetera. And he wasn't, they were just up there already. And so I'm like, okay, no way. And then so that happens, and then someone's oh, there's one. And then once again, he points the laser near so everyone can see. And again, can you power it in your lights? Now this one's flashing and another part of the sky. I'm like, no way. And he did this for 30 minutes where all these different, these things up in the sky are flashing. And, but in my mind, the skeptic, I'm like, we don't know what the Secret Space program has. We don't really know what's going on out there. Press things, you just pointed a laser beam near this thing. We don't know. We don't know what type of technology they have and what they can scan for. And they've got satellites that can zoom in and can they hear us by with a satellite. We don't know what's actually going on. So I'm still skeptical. I'm like, I don't know what this is, but it's. Interesting. It's cool, right? And so then after that, then I'm like, I break away from the group, which we're in a small circle anyways, but everyone's looking over here. I turn around and I'm in my own area of the sky. And then I see this one that's four times as big as the other ones, this big glowing thing that's coming across the sky. And I, this time I don't point the laser at it. And this time as I'm looking at it, I don't even say it out loud, just in my mind. I say, can you power di your lights? And this thing gets real bright, gets dark, and then turns into a beam of light and is gone. And I'm like, alright. So oh my

Jerome: 10:40

gosh.

Anne: 10:40

Ooh,

Jerome: 10:40

I got goosebumps.

Anne: 10:41

So I'm just like, okay. I don't know what kind of technology they can have to hear us, et cetera, but this thing just communicated with me through my thoughts, like telepathically or whatever, and it reacted and now I'm like, this proved beyond a reasonable doubt that there's something going on here. And so those were my two, my first physical experiences with extraterrestrials. And then it moved into, what we consider now multi-dimensional and nonphysical. And this is where these higher dimensional beings that are here as guides and guardians and really. To help us evolve. This is where I started having contact with these beings and so that, those happened in 2015. And then fast forward 2017 is when my next set of this is where like the prolific things started happening. But those are my like actual experiences, like in the 3D and then this is where the next set started.

Jerome: 11:25

Wow. You just blew my mind. So how are the beings here to help you evolve?

Anne: 11:30

What they told me, and this, it took me a while to understand this, is that humans are, did not evolve from monkeys. Like Darwin says that we are actually a creation and we are hybrids, we are a hybridized species mixed with several minimum 12 different species of ets. A lot of us have a lot more than that, but basically that we were here as a project and we're here to evolve. And that these beings, and there are a bunch of different ones, they are all genetic. They are all our genetic relatives and so that they are what took place in part of the seeding of us and the hybridization process of us. And so that we have in our DNA, their genetics. And this is, something that took me a while to grasp and, science says that we have a, we have a double helix, but really we have 12 strands of DNA and only the double helix that we see is the 3D physical. I was explaining that we're multidimensional. So we are much more than this physical body. Your soul is actually. Connected into the multiverse and through the dimensions multidimensionally. And so they were explaining to me that after the 3D that these other strands of DNA that are etheric, they show up, right? And so that they played a role in, in creating us and evolving us and that, science says that 97% of the DNA is junk. Really, it's all just off. That junk. DNA is the parts of us that are off. And this is where all of these advanced psychic abilities and the way the you communicate with them through these psychic connections are all stored in this junk DNA. And when we turn it on, we get access to these. Almost what we would consider superhuman abilities. And so they were showing that they are here to help us evolve and activate that DNA and bring us in into connection and really evolve our consciousness. They're here to make sure that we don't kill ourselves, we don't blow ourselves up. They started showing up all around when these nuclear bombs started going off because. That doesn't just affect this 3D reality. It affects all the dimensions and it affects these timelines that, that they're trying to, they're trying to make sure that we, are able to make it and evolve. And they were showing me things like that Mars, Mars was a planet that blew itself up. And they, that's why there's no atmosphere and they're trying to make sure we don't end up like that. And when you mentioned trans dimensional on time, these beings that are hyper evolved and these higher dimensions, if we looked at it linear, they are just in the future, is what, how we would perceive it. Because that the way that the dimensions are stacked, they don't operate in time the way, the same way we do, on earth. But they explained it as if they did, they would be in the future so they can come back through time to work with us.

Jerome: 13:47

So how has your life changed working with these beings?

Anne: 13:50

So this is a awesome story. So basically, and so I'm gonna explain what happened to me and then how that evolved me. So the next, the Nest experience I had was, I, I was a construction worker, right? So I was a laborer, then an operator operating heavy equipment. And then I was a superintendent for an excavating company. And I was traveling on the Midwest building landfills. They don't put landfills by cities. They're out in the middle of nowhere and giant, giant hole in the ground. And I either dug the big hole, me and my team would either dig the big hole that all the trash goes in or cover it up, right? So that's what I did for a living. And so I was, at, I was working out a landfill in Michigan on the border of Michigan and Indiana and at and on my lunch break, I would eat my food real fast and then I would take a little nap in my truck right before, before we get back to work. And so the, my experiences with these high dimensional beings started that way at first I thought they were strange dreams, right? So I was in my truck and I would eat, and then I would just lean back. I was laying back, I'd close my eyes, and then one of. The first time it happened, I closed my eyes and then when I opened my eyes, there were five beings. And I didn't know that these were extraterrestrials at first. And this is why I feel like they groomed me because I, I don't know if I was gonna be afraid because of my other experiences, but they showed up as blue, like blue silhouettes of light. So they were like these tall blue light beings, which weren't scary.'cause there's just some blue, like a blue light. And so there were five of them, and one, two of them were phasing through the engine block in front of me. One was in the pa in the passenger seat. Just like standing through, as though they were like, was outside and then one was behind like phasing through the truck bed. And I'm just like looking at them and they all reach their hands and they reach right through the windshield. Another one, they put their hands on me and when they touched me, I heard this noise and it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then after that I just see myself like going up this tube of light. And as I'm looking up this tube of light, there's what I thought at the time was a floating city. I didn't associate it with, a spacecraft or a light ship or anything like that. I just see this floating city, and this is why I thought it was a dream. So I'm going up this tube and I get to the city and in this city, the first area that. This arena, and it reminded me of the TV show, American Ninja Warrior Challenge, where these people are trying to make it across this obstacle course. There's different platforms, different things, and you gotta make it across in a certain time limit. It was like that. So when I got there, the first thing that they did to me was they expanded this. And this like light field from their heart expanded and encapsulated me and connected to me. And then when they did that, it was like w we were able to communicate. And so they started communicating to me telepathically. And when I say telepathically, was like images. I would see images like a movie sped up real fast and somehow I would just know what it meant. They didn't, they don't communicate with words. It's like a higher, they're like, they're explaining that like a picture is a thousand words, a movie's a million. So they're communicating at a hyper bandwidth and they can send more information back and forth. So the first thing they did was connect to me, and then they brought me into it was like, turn the volume up is the best way I can describe it. Where it just felt like my energy like shifted. And when that happened. They were explaining to me that they were gonna show me some stuff and that they were gonna teach me how to activate my light body and show me how to use it. And so I didn't understand any of that at first. I just was going along with the program. I was like, oh, this is cool dream. And so they first showed me that with my breath, my, with my intentions. They're like, okay, I want you to concentrate and then you're gonna do this. And they had me breathe and just as I breathed in and held my breath, they were like, you're gonna just. You're gonna just see yourself move up. And, I did it, and I know it sounds strange, but I did what they showed me and then I floated up and I was able to float myself. And I'm just like, wow. I'm like in this little bubble of light. And I floated up and they're like, they were like super excited. They were like, happy. They were like just doing this like little happy dance. And so then they showed me, okay, you can float yourself up now. You're gonna float yourself with your intentions across the platforms. You're gonna make your way from one side to this. There was like a big open space and just float yourself across. And so I did that. I moved myself across, and when I made it, they were happy again. And then that was what I thought was the first dream. Boom, I'm back in the truck and I'm like, what a strange dream. Because it just, it seemed like a dream because I was one in one space and then this happened, and then back in the truck and then and. Then this happened over the course of months where it kept happening. But I would go to sleep, I'd have regular dreams, nothing like this, and then sporadically it would happen again, always when I'm in the truck at work. It seemed at the same time, another week later this happens again where boom, they show up the same thing up, up the, to a light, and then I'm in the space again. And it was a progression. So this time they materialized, they like opened this little energy thing and then this. This orange cube appeared, like an orange block. And then mm-hmm. The same way that they showed me how they connected to me, they're like, now you're gonna connect with your intention and your breath. You float yourself up and they're like, you're gonna connect to this object. And so I, I did what they said. I connected this like a beam of light from my heart to this object. And then it responded. And then they're like, okay, now lift. Lift the object. And then so I did, and they're like, okay now. And they were happy. They're like, now move that cube across the platform. So I stood on one side and I just, with my attention and my breath the same way I lifted myself, I just moved that cube across the platforms. And so that happened and then they were excited and then, back in the truck and then, another week later, then they were like, okay, now you're gonna lift yourself up. And the cube and now move you and the cube across the platforms. I'm like, what? Strange games, it just seemed like a game. I didn't realize that it was an exercise and they were developing my light body and like basically teaching me in a way that seemed like it's similar to how you teach children. You make it fun and playful and it didn't seem like it was, that was, I was learning anything. And so after that. Then on the fourth, I forget it was the fourth or fifth time when I went up there, after moving the blocks around, when we go up there now, everything looks different now they went from blue light beings to now they are blue extraterrestrials. Like it's obvious that they're ETS and this floating city. Now this is obviously a spaceship and this is why I feel like they were grooming me because little by little I was getting comfortable with it, right? I knew it was the same because they felt the same. The way they communicated was the same. It was all, it was like it was coming into, like into definition. It was like it was blurry and then all of a sudden, now it's very clear what this is, and they at that point showed me that the ship responds telepathically, like it has its own sentient consciousness. And that they showed me the same way they communicate with it is how they communicate with me. And they showed me around it and how to use it. And there's all these different technologies. There's these, these healing, these healing chambers. They put people in and they can like basically heal all sorts of different ailments and there's all these different things these ships can do. And so they spent some time teaching me that. And then after that, they're like, all right, you're ready. I'm like, ready for what? They're like, remember how you could like. Float the block and this, that and the other. Now you can bring other people the same way you connect to that block and move it. Now you can connect to a person and bring a person up here at their consciousness at least, right? They're still physically on the ground, but their consciousness where they're experiencing it, like a movie can now come up into here and they're like, now you can bring other people up here to have direct contact with us and we'll start teaching them and we'll start doing this stuff with other people. And you're like a liaison or you're like a, you're the route. The bridge to humanity for us. And then I spent the next several years in thousand 17, up until now, bringing people up into these lightships. And this is where it shifted from it being in my head to now, hundreds and thousands of people are now having these experiences where they're having this direct contact and they come back different. What it takes in order to go up there and have these experiences, that changes your consciousness, right? And so the people that come back are now have these different psychic abilities. Everyone's different, but they come back with, being able to be telepathic. Some people can move objects with their mind, other people can heal themselves and others. And there's all these different things based on your genetics and your soul type, what you have within yourself, but they bring it forward. And the act of communicating with them. Develops that. And so everyone that comes in contact has these lightbody experiences and they kept teaching me, they taught me how to activate people's DNA and how to use the technology where I can bring people up into these ships to use the, use these healing chambers, all this awesome stuff. And so this is where it shifted from, in my head to. Now I'm an access point where I'm changing the lives of, everyone I come in contact with. And this is where, then it turned into, this is what I do for a living. And so then I got, then I became like a magnet where at first it was scary. I'm like, oh, I don't wanna tell people about this because people are gonna think I'm weird. And then it turned into. I start drawing more and more people in where I'm being invited onto shows, like I said, the Discovery Channel. I brought a friend of mine who was the head producer of some show, and I I was just doing psyche readings for her for a while, and then after a while I'm like, I got this new ability where I can bring people into spaceships. She's like. Can you show me? And so I did it for her and she's just like, I produced the last five seasons of Ancient Aliens, and they're looking at pictures on the wall and nobody's bringing people in spaceships. No one's doing this. And so then she's you gotta be on this show. And that's how I got on this, on that Discovery Channel Show was through, was that way. And then, now I speak on stage and I speak a conscious life expo where I do group DNA activations and, it has shifted into larger and larger audiences. And so that is how it went from, being some. Weird, strange thing to now a profession. So it changed my life'cause I was a construction worker and then I shifted into a whole different thing where now I, I coach people in consciousness and because it's more than just the ets, they're just a pathway for people that are connected to that and they want that, but it's much larger than that. They hold development of the light body and active in the DNA and healing. The trauma and the shadow. A lot of it's shadow work before the shadow work is like when, before you go up, up on the lightship. The shadow work is like the TSA at the airport where they like pat you down. You're not allowed to bring, trauma and lower vibrational emotions up into these higher spaces because they said it's like a lens of trauma that you're like, it's an altered lens and so you have to clear all that up. So it's like they pat you down and make sure you clear all that out. For you? No. None of that junk allowed up on the ship. And I do a lot of, I do a lot of work with people to help them heal and work through their trauma and then develop their consciousness. And then, in the long run, it started off as just these one-off experiences. But then now I train other people as facilitators where I teach people how to facilitate the same thing. I've got a, I've got a handful of people that bring people up in Lightships and do activations, and I'll use all this technology, it's very transferable. And this is where, at first everyone thought I was like, special or this, that, and the other, but they explained to me that. That all humans have these psychic capacities, and I was just a trailblazer or somebody that had it first, that everyone else has access to this, that, I'm not on, on a pedestal. And this is, it's very humbling to know that this is something that we all have and this is why they're here, is to teach us how to use, and access these parts of ourselves that have been hidden. And it's funny, they explained to me like, if you were in a wheelchair your whole life and you never walked. Your legs would've atrophied and then you can't walk. You don't even know that you have legs. You might know, but you've never used them. They would be completely atrophied. They explained that these, your light body and these parts of us are just, have been atrophied'cause people have never used them. Wow. The only time people have experience multidimensionality is when you dream. When you go into the dream space every night that is multidimensionality, you're shifting your consciousness from your point of view into a parallel reality or into another timeline or another incarnation. And we have these experiences to integrate that stuff into our waking state. And so that's typically the way people experience it, but it's you're not in control. Most people don't dream lucidly. That's A-A-D-N-A strand for ability is to be lucid and to remember. And so most of us don't have that ability, so they just, it seems like you're not in control versus being able to do this while you're awake and have control. And so this is where they're teaching us how to, operate our consciousness. And so this is how it shifted into, a life-changing experience. And it went from something I was scared of to now it's something I'm very proud of.

Jerome: 23:42

Yeah, absolutely. It's like you're an ET recruiter bringing everybody on board. I love it. I love it.

Anne: 23:47

Exactly. They explain that, everyone thinks that mass disclosure's gonna happen when the big ships come down and this, that, and the other, but really this disclosure has been happening to people that are ready or had signed up for it previously. Already, and it's happening on an individual level, right? So people are coming up and having these experiences that change them, but it's not a mass scary thing where everyone's afraid of it. And so this is where they're explaining that. But yeah, it's like you said, a recruiter is a good way to, to describe it.

Jerome: 24:10

How do you overcome people's fear and challenges? So you said that only the people that are like really drawn to it are coming to you, but I'm sure they're tiptoeing and they're not like running into it. So how do you overcome their fears of ets?

Anne: 24:24

So that is a great question because as a society we are programmed to be afraid of ets. You see movies like Predator or Alien or these different things where they show extraterrestrials as scary and evil and this, that and the other. And don't get me wrong, there are. Extra terrestrials that have a malicious agenda that are not here to help us. And it's okay for that, but that the majority of them are. And so if you see things that make you afraid of them, you'll never connect. You'll ne because part of it is free will. The beings that are here to help us, they believe in like they are. They're a law of one. Free will. If you are afraid, then you're not even gonna be open to be able to have that experience. And they respect that. And the people that are afraid, typically, they might not want that. So there are people that come to me because they are already having experiences that they're not in control over or something happened to them and they're looking for more, they're looking to gain control over it and they want more. A lot of people that resonate with. The star seed movement, this is where people are, they come in and they're evolved souls. When they come into their body, they remember already that, that they're, remember how I was saying that the 12 strands and we have like they are

Jerome: 25:23

right.

Anne: 25:24

They recognize from a young age that they're hybrid. That they're hybrid and they're different and they might already have certain psychic abilities that are on. So they're very aware of this. When there's, they see things, they know that this is truth and they have a connection. They just. Don't understand it, and they haven't had that direct contact and they want that. And so, um, you know, typically if someone's trying to challenge and say it's not real or they're afraid of it, typically those people won't even be able to because they've already shut that off within themselves. They've already decided that they're not having that experience. I have had people though that just, they seeing as believing and they're open to it and then their mind has completely changed. I've had people say, I don't believe in that. I'm like, that doesn't change. The fact of the matter or what reality is. And I've had people that, went from non-believing to, okay, now they have the experience and they believe it. And it's been awesome. It's been an awesome ride. And I love doing it because every time I go up there, I learn more. And in the act of doing, I evolve and I get more access to my consciousness. And so it's such a fun thing.

Jerome: 26:15

Wow. So could you give us, some examples of the Healing Chamber and the clients that you've taken and how they've been healed and their lives have changed?

Anne: 26:23

Yes, and I also, I do have testimonials on my website, if anyone wants to see them, if you go to Jerome martin three.com, I've got testimonials of people talking about the experiences, but, I'll give an example of a few, oh, someone that, he's a good friend of mine now, but before I knew him. Another buddy of mine, when I was first talking about this and I was sharing with people, one of his employees, Hey man, my, my buddy Gage, he was skateboarding and he fell off his skateboard and he broke his hip and he's in the hospital right now and he has to have a whole, hip transplant or a hip replacement surgery where they gotta fuse it back together, et cetera. He's like, can you do a healing on him? And so I'm like, yeah, I can, if he wants to. And so he put me on the phone with this guy and I do it remotely. I can, I do it over Zoom. We don't have to be in person. I do it over Zoom or over the phone. And I bring people through this process. And so I did this with him and we go up into this space, and it's a part of your consciousness. So your physical body is here, but it's like a part of you is able to step out, right? And you have your eyes closed, but it's with your eyes closed, you're seeing yourself in this other place. And we go into the ship and then there's these rooms where they, we used to call'em med beds, but med bed is like a human 3D thing, like in the movie Black Panther. But the, these are very non th third dimensional. But these chambers, they are, it's like a scanning technology. You can think like an MRI, right? The chamber itself doesn't do the healing the beings do, but the chamber itself. They, you put their light body in there, then it scans them, and when it scans them, it collects their genetic holographic blueprint. So basically on the screen in front of them, it shows like a hologram of themselves where they see themselves, and when it runs a scan, just like an MRI, it shows things up, right? So it'll show. That you have broken bones or it'll show whatever's going on. Most times when people come for different things,, this is a specific case'cause his hip was actually broken. But a lot of times when people have some sort of disease, and once again I'm not a doctor, we just go through this process and it does it on its own right? But basically whenever someone has a disease, it's. They don't show the organ or whatever's going on, they show like emotional energy, which is like colored blobs in different parts of their body. And they show that because they sh they explain that disease starts off as dis-ease that manifests into a physical thing. And they show all these different things. Sometimes it's the bones, the organs, sometimes it's just energies. But they show you that's what the pod itself does. Then there's a team, a healing team that comes in and every time that the team comes in. They're sometimes different. Sometimes it's arcturians, sometimes it's Ians. Sometimes it's, there's always a mantis being, whenever I do the work of, for some reason this mantis being, he's always in charge. But there's different beings that show up. And then they're like the team, right? So one, one's the surgeon one's. It's like nurses where they all have different things that they're doing, and they show up differently based on the person's needs. And so they're in the pod, they're viewing this screen that they're observing, and then these beings come in and then they start making corrections. And so based on what's going on, they start creating, creating a correction. And so sometimes they use what look like energetic tools where it looks like they got this thing in their hands with a light, not like a light saber, like in Star Wars, but sometimes it's like a beam of light that goes in. And as they're doing this, which is so crazy that. The person will be experiencing it. They'll be telling me, okay, I'm seeing'em do this. I'm seeing them, but they're seeing it in the, in the mind's eye, but at the same time, they're feeling it on the physical body. So they're in this experience, but they feel it on the physical body at the same time. So as they're,

29:13

wow,

Anne: 29:13

this experience that's

Jerome: 29:14

so cool.

Anne: 29:14

They're feeling the body. It's like something like, like I'm feeling vibration in my hip and I feel I, I'm seeing them reach in and I'm feeling a heat or tingling or I'm seeing this thing happen. So they're able, there's a physical thing happening while this is happening.'cause as it happens to the light body in the higher dimensions, it then distills down into the physical body and it makes these changes. And so this person gage, he, they were working on his hip. They were, it looked the. The way that we saw it was they took, did like a bone graph where they energetically took and put like bone cells in and regrew it and they changed it, regrew it, and that's what they did on him. And, afterwards I'm like, okay, did the healing, I didn't hear from this person. And then. About a month later, I'm at my friend's shop. You owned a crystal shop at the time. And I'm there shopping, and this guy walks into me and bangs into me, and I'm like, oh, sorry. And, and my friend Alex goes, that's him. That's Gage. I'm like, with the broken hip? He's yeah. And he's oh, walking around. He is like, and this is, mind you, it's like less than a month. He's like, yeah, the doctor just can't explain it. But he's like, he's like, look, I ran half a mile yesterday. Wow, he

Jerome: 30:07

said

Anne: 30:08

that.

Jerome: 30:08

Wow.

Anne: 30:08

Yeah, so basically the hip grew back and he's up walking in less than one month after this experience. And so he's, yeah, the doctors can't explain it, but my, the hips is fixed. And I, he did have a thing like a rod put in, but how fast the bone grew back and healed, in less than a month where he's can up walk, run with no problem. He's he is like, this is absolutely miraculous. So that was one experience. Another one recently, that I can share is, a client of mine came. To me. And she's having autoimmune problems. And once again, I'm not a doctor. I bring people into the space. They have an experience and then things shift, right? And we go up there and they're working on her. And once again, it was, she had lupus is what the autoimmune disease was. And they bring up, they're working on her, they're working on different parts of the bodies they're working on. D different areas. This time it was all emotional things where they're seeing different colors of energy and emotions. They're bringing it up and it causes an emotional release where sometimes people cry. Different things happen where they, or they'll feel an intense, anger for a moment. They feel this emotion. And then once it processes it, it's unresolved emotions that, that sort of built up from not, processing them, right? These things build up,

Jerome: 31:06

right?

Anne: 31:06

And then they turn into this other thing. And so basically different emotions came up. She saw different colors, different lights. Felt things going on. And then, but there was like intense burst event of emotion where that emotion was instantly processed. So it's like you felt it, you got real angry and then boom, it's gone. But it was all processed in that moment, so now it's no longer there. And those emotions were, are, were manifesting as this disease. It was, it's a fun game. They, this thing and it's always, every single time it's different based on the person's needs and they just, we just walk through the process and there's like a template of what we do, but it's always different. And so we did this experience and then, she reached out to me. A couple weeks later and she's Jerome, I just want to thank you so much. She's I just wanna let you know. She's I went to the doctor,, and for the first time in 25 years, I'm autoimmune disease free. And they can't explain it. Wow. And it's just disappeared. And the shifts change, right? Like I said, I'm not a doctor. I don't even know what we're gonna do when we go up there. We just go up there and the experience unfolds. And, but these are some examples of things that happen. The other, my favorite experiences of a close friend of mine, during COVID times, He came to me, he's Hey, my girlfriend, her father, he got COVID, now he has pneumonia and he's on life support. They're saying that he is got 15% lung capacity, that basically is drowning his own lungs. And, he's not conscious. And he's basically like in, in a, I don't know if they induced it or he is just in, in a coma, but basically he's non-responsive and they said that he is got likely 24 hours before he's going to pass. He's can you do anything? I'm like, I don't know, because usually the person has to be conscious. I gotta bring up. There. They gotta, they got have to participate right in this uhhuh, for me to have this work. But at the time, my higher self told me, no, we can do this. I just knew in my head I could, I didn't know how yet, but my guides then told me, that I could bring the person. My, my buddy who's, is his girlfriend's dad, the one that came to me and said, I can bring him up there and he can be the observer. And basically it works on, once I said, free will and permission. So I got permission from the higher self of this person that physically can't say I want this. But I, we went up there and I asked the higher self. It was like a, the hologram pulled up and I, we asked the higher self, if you said yes, that part of them got into the pod. We ran the scans and believe it or not, the what was causing the, what was going on was it was anger and grief on the lungs and what it had to anger is usually in. There was like grief and anger. But it was showing that the lungs were being affected by this. And basically it was all this emotional energy that was built up. And, they will show you oftentimes what caused it what point in your life caused that trauma that caused this energy to build up. And what they showed us was that he was. He was very unhappy with the way that this person was treating his daughter based on different fights they had or things that happened. And he had all this like resentment and all these different emotions against this person. So he saw that these emotions that built up that were causing this problem were due to the things that were happening in that relationship. And so we went through and we cleared up the emotions and, went through the process and they, did the ETS did different things and, he wasn't there to talk about it, but. My buddy was there and he was just explaining what he saw, and he was, he was in tears saying that this was, caused by this'cause he's seeing real time what was going on and what ended up causing it. And so we go through the process and then they say, okay, he's ready. They take the higher self, they put it back in the body. And then he calls me like three hours later. He is Jerome, you're not gonna leave. What happened? I'm like, what? He's he just sat up and coughed up all the liquid out of his lungs, and they can't believe it, but he's fine now and that the pneumonia is just gone and he's fine. They're gonna release him in a couple hours and he is I can't believe that happened. I'm just like, at the time I'm just like. At when this first started happening and things changed like that. At first you're like, oh my God. I can't believe it either. But after every time you do it, when there's shifts and changes, it's just like you expect the results to be the way that they are. But those are some experiences, from being up in the healing pods. They are the healing chambers that, those are the most memorable ones. But I've done this for, hundreds of people that all have different experiences.

Jerome: 34:33

Wow. Oh my gosh, that's so powerful. And a great reminder not to suppress our emotions because unresolved emotions do turn into disease. Great reminder on that.

Anne: 34:42

Absolutely this why, this is why the shadow is so important. And this is why, even as a facilitator, never be too proud to go to therapy. Never be too proud to do the shadow work. Do the things that you can unpack your emotions because for me, I help people with this all the time, but no one does it for me. So, you know, if, whether you want. This type of experience or you just wanna work on your mental health, that, doing things that will help you process is so important because that's what ends up happening, is these different emotions will manifest. And we need to make sure that if you want to be happy, healthy mentally, emotionally, and physically,'cause they're all intertwined that we make sure that we process those emotions.

Jerome: 35:10

Great. I always love to ask, is there a book that you would recommend that helped you on your journey of maybe understanding ETS and the whole process that you could recommend to the listeners?

Anne: 35:19

So the only book that I can recommend is hard to come by, and you can maybe get on eBay, but it's the Voyager series by Ian Dean. And it's because the, this, there's two books, Voyagers one and two. The number one is you can, sometimes you can find it in PDF, but if you get it on eBay, they're only available on eBay and they're like a hundred to 200 bucks. But the reason why those books are prolific is because they are the account of. The galactic history, right? So she channeled from billions of years ago. Everything I'm talking about with these different beings and these different races, it's like the history of how it happened, where they came from, the seedings of how humanity became. So that book, for me really helped me because I was having direct experiences where it was like, it's my experience, my life. And that book helped me understand and tie them together. What I'm doing is like the physics. And this is like the history, right? And so they, they coincide because it helps you understand what's actually going on. Because I didn't, for the longest time, it was just like, I just show up and do it. I didn't know what was going on or anything like that. But that book was really powerful, for me. And you might be able to find on a pdf, you can actually find it on YouTube. There is, somewhat, there's a reading of it. I'm actually gonna do this on my. On my site and then have a, where I read it. But, there you can find on YouTube, if you look up Voyagers audiobook, or Voyagers Reading, there is somebody that read it. So you can listen to somebody read the book, which is awesome. I listen to it one in the car, at the gym sometimes.

Jerome: 36:32

Wow. This conversation has been mind blowing. So thank you Jerome, for sharing your journey with us. And where can people connect with you? I'll list it down below in show notes.

Anne: 36:40

Yes. On my website, jerome martin three.com is my website where I offer, one-on-one, one-on-one services or training. I'm about to launch a school group where I have, it's gonna be a membership based group where, um, if you don't wanna work one-on-one with me, there is gonna be all of the training where you can come and learn. Because really what we're doing here is learning how to, how to activate the light body and develop it how to. Activate and develop the declare senses and then how to move through the dimensions, right? And so I'm launching a school group in the next month where, this is gonna be available where it's got all these different transmissions that are light language, which are like downloads where it activates your light body, DNA, activations, all this awesome stuff. In the curriculum, the same way that I train people is just gonna be recordings of me doing it. That way, you can follow along. And then if people want more, more intimacy and want one-on-one with me, then that's available as well. And I also offer, group classes every now and again, or group transmissions. And so that's all available on my website. If you scan the QR code, it'll take you to my website, as well. And if you send it to my newsletter, you get a free gift, which is, access to a weekly DNA activation. I haven't been doing them the past several weeks because I had a trauma in the family, but it's gonna be launching up in the next couple weeks again. But where you can come and have an experience, that will then lead you deeper.

Jerome: 37:46

Awesome. Awesome. Thank you so much Jerome, and if you found this episode helpful, please share it with someone who might be facing a similar challenge and needs to hear this message of hope, healing, and inspiration. See you next time on overcoming Anything.